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clearsky
Thu Dec 24 2009, 11:36am

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Ok... Now I have been having a problem with my bbs.... When I first made up a batch, I had a pretty good hatch... but since then, I have been getting increasingly lower hatches.. I have kept my eggs in the refrig. (got em from Jehmco)
has someone got a good recipe for the water? I have been putting in 3 tspns of salt / for 1 1/2 litres water.. just a pinch of epsom salts, but really don't know if my salinity is proper... sort have been tweeking that amount...
I will get a small hatch (maybe 30 percent per hatch) on one batch, then maybe none on the next then maybe 40 next... doesn't seem to be the same.... HELP!!! got some babies not so happy with me, they are tired of vinegar worms and give me the thumbs down on the dry food...
is it possible my eggs are not good??? even though I do get some hatching...
any ideas would be greatful, especially if someone has a tried and true recipe...
thanks
david

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Larry-T
Fri Dec 25 2009, 10:57am
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I have been getting very good hatches with eggs that I have kept for many months. Here are the three tricks that workk for me:

1. I keep the cans of eggs in the freezer, not the refrigerator.
2. I use artificial sea salt. One container of Instant Ocean lasts for a couple of years.
3. I use a marine aquarium salinity tester and set the salinity at about 1.028. I make up the salt water in a covered five gal container and leave a powerhead running in it constantly.


This has provided me with consistent results.

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jmdarlack
Fri Dec 25 2009, 04:43pm
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Im having the same problem with hatching BBS. I also thought the eggs were getting old, or something. I also use Kosher pickling salt. Will try the ocean kind and also measure the specific gravity.

Already I like this forum!!
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clearsky
Sat Dec 26 2009, 08:52am

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I went out and bought a hygrometer, cheap one but at least I can see if my measuring is close to the right salinity..
I must say, I kept my eggs in the freezer at first, but thought that the refrig would be ok... especially as some hatchings are good to very good, then the next batch or two would be poor... very inconsistant. I have ocean salt, and will try that next, but I must say, that everywhere I've read, the feelings about iodized vs non-iodized vs sea salt are mixed,, some say that anything works, some are very specific.. I guess it's one of those things where "if it works for you, then don't fix it"...
david

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Larry-T
Sat Dec 26 2009, 09:21am
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The very best hatches I got was when I also had a couple of marine aquaria. I used the waste water from water changes to hatch the brine shrimp eggs and that was the best I ever saw. I no longer keep the marine aquaria (my FW stuff breeds too much) but still have the big bucket of Instant Ocean which I use.


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clearsky
Sat Dec 26 2009, 02:04pm

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I have been playing too!!! made a brineshrimp hatcher out of a zip loc bag, went and heat pressed the thing into a funnel, or "v" shape if you will... I have a heat press that I use to seal plastic bags and this has worked really well... the bag lasts for five or six hatchings, (longer if you dont tear or rip the bag) and for some reason, I have been getting my best hatches out of this contraption..
with a moderate stream of air through a rigid piece of tubing, I get the air right to the bottom and best agitation. jurys' out but so far the best hatching....
I am planning on using a better quality plastic (ie, heavier thickness) to see If I can construct a more permanent device..
david

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lonlangione
Thu Dec 31 2009, 11:49am
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I use the smae method that Larry does. The Instant Ocean salt works great. I re-use the two time only. I used to use my water over and over again. Then I had a hydra outbreak. A friend asked if I used my salt for BBS over and I told him yes. He suggested stopping this and ever since then 20+ years ago, I have never had another outbreak of hydra. The hydrometer + the sea salt + the salinity of 1.20 - 1.30 works great. I have found some eggs hatch better at a higher salinity and some at a lower salinity. Mine usually hatch in 24 hours.

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ADRIAAN
Thu Apr 29 2010, 03:48pm
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hoi i will tell how i it do ???
i have always every day artemia.
i have a coca cola bottel and air from the bottem .
with 1 liter water and 2 1/2 eatspns comsumptie salt and 2 t spns eggs and 24 our later i hatch have maney artemia,s for feeding my fries .
and i make it once time a week clean and every day clean water .
i hope that this help you .
regards ad
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clearsky
Thu Apr 29 2010, 10:55pm

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Ever since I took the hint and used the marine salt... ie. ready to mix salt water mix... I put 2-3 tspns in 2 litres.
Now I don't put as many eggs in as some... maybe 1/4 tspn... for me that ratio is working good now, and I have 2 or 3 bottles running at differnt times. I seem to be hatching out about 80%.... much better than before.
With my very low ph well water, it seems the marine mix is working better than regular salt.. Although I still think my eggs may be getting too old.
One thing that I found worked well for me... I use a ten gallon aquarium, fill it about 1/3 full (8" or so) I put a small heater in it to keep the water tempered at about 78-80 degrees... then sit my bbs bottles in the tank.. this way they keep good warm temps..
I don't use a light until I want to siphon out bs....
then put a light on one side of the bottle,,, wait a few minutes and siphon away..... working much better for me now.
david

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ADRIAAN
Fri Apr 30 2010, 10:42am
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hoi david
every one has do it with his methode for the baby shrimp.

good luck adriaan
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